Terry Schiavo Case

This whole thing just boggles my mind. Eleven appeals and this is going to Congress? I don’t want Delay, Frist, Santorum or any of those other assholes deciding my fate.

Ron made a good point. If marriage is so damned sacred – then why is this marriage and it’s convenants not being honored.

I loved Larry King when he had a pastor on that went off about morality and the sanctity of life (unless you’re an Iraqi civilian, of course). Then King countered, ‘Do you believe in the death penalty?’ and the pastor dove on how much the Bible advocates punishing and killing criminals (I, for one, think capital punishment is too expense – due to the appeals process – and is not a deterrent to crime – and what about that whole Thou Shalt Not Kill thingy?). Plus, I never feel like capital punishment in a closed, private chamber implies that the state is committing a shameful act. I saw we have these MF’s on pay-per-view.






8 responses to “Terry Schiavo Case”

  1. On Terry Schiavo
    Interesting argument found in Andymatic: If marriage is so damned sacred – then why is this marriage and it’s convenants not being honored….

  2. Brad Avatar

    I’m not sure it’s an issue of the convenants of marriage. Under the law, a straight and gay couple would be treated the same in this situation. Both a straight and gay couple, can give their partner, or anyone else, the legally binding authorization via a living will to make such health care decisions.

    The difference I guess is the rebublican reaction. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for President Smirky VonAssface to fly back to Washington to sign legislation to save a gay man’s life.

  3. Tell Congress to Let Terry Schiavo Go
    Is it me, or is this like watching someone being raped?

    Congressional leaders reached a compromise Saturday on legislation to force the case of Terri Schiavo into federal court, an extraordinary intervention intended to prolong the life of the brain…

  4. Rich Avatar

    If maggiage is so sacroscant then why does he have children with another woman OUT of marriage? But this is NOT a question of marriage vows, it’s a question of a living will. Which she does not have. So to pull her feeding tube without her written consent is murder.

  5. Beastmomma Avatar

    Also, I don’t understand why they can move so quickly to get this legislation through, but are tied up when it comes to increasing health insurance coverage and improve everyone’s access to care.

  6. palochi Avatar

    Momma: Because they’ve been too busy meeting baseball players.

  7. Anon Avatar

    The real story of the last moments of Terri Schiavo’s life

    Story by JOE BABENDREIER /Thought for Sunday
    Publication Date: 05/22/2005
    Eleven years ago an accident left Terri Schiavo paralysed. She made world headlines last March when a federal judge in the United States ordered doctors to remove her feeding tube. The doctors removed it. Controversy ensued, one group supporting the judge and the other insisting that it was wrong to remove the feeding tube.

    Did Terri’s husband have the right to ask doctors to remove it? What about the wish of the parents? What about Terri’s statement, made before her accident, that she did not want to survive on life-support procedures if she was terminally ill? Were the doctors correct when they diagnosed Terri’s condition as a ‘permanent vegetative state’? Was she as unaware of herself and her surroundings as the doctors claimed? (The husband claimed that diagnosis was correct. The parents claimed it was wrong.) Even if she was aware, would that change the ethics of removing the feeding tube? I would like to add another issue that I have yet to see addressed in the media. Once we remove a feeding tube, what obligations do we have towards the patient?

    Those caring for a patient must provide basic necessities, at least as far as the patient is capable of benefiting, however minimally. Did Ms Schiavo receive the kind of care she deserved? After the feeding tube was removed, something odd happened. The judge gave instructions for an armed guard to be stationed in the patient’s room.

    Two police officers stood at the foot of her bed, 24 hours a day, to make sure that not even her own mother could comfort her daughter as she thought best.

    This news seemed so shocking that I was initially inclined to discard it as an exaggeration. Without the feeding tube, Terri’s condition was likely to deteriorate rapidly. The controversy stirred up over the removal of the feeding tube was intense. Emotions were running high. People might falsely accuse the doctors and the judge of malicious intent.

    Besides, if Terri was as comatose as the doctors were saying, she would just drift away peacefully. Providing fluids would be a nice gesture of affection, but Terri would remain oblivious to what was happening to her. Terri’s husband seemed to confirm this scenario when he said his wife looked peaceful as she lay dying. He gave the impression she was sleeping with angels, her eyes calmly closed as she passed effortlessly into the next world.

    The Reverend Frank Pavone was the chaplain. Together with the parents, he was at the patient’s bedside for the last 14 hours of her life. He gave a different report.

    “When her mom first introduced her to me (in 2004), Terri stared at me intently. She focused her eyes. She would focus her eyes on whoever was talking to her. If somebody spoke to her from the other part of the room she would turn her head and her eyes towards the person talking to her,” he said.

    Once the feeding tube was removed, all that changed. “To describe the way she looked as ‘peaceful’ is a total distortion of what I saw. Her eyes were open but they were going from one side to the next, constantly oscillating back and forth. I watched her for hours. I can only describe it as a combination of dreaded fear and sadness. Her mouth was open the whole time. It looked like it was frozen open. She was panting rapidly. It wasn’t peaceful in any sense of the word.

    For the last 13 days of her life, Ms Schiavo got no water – not a single drop to moisten her lips. The police were standing in the room to make sure no one dared even try. The priest once put his hand close to the patient to bless her and they warned him not to give her anything. Say whatever you want about the feeding tube; withholding water was wrong.

  8. kim Avatar

    Do you have any idea how many people take up space on this planet who are in Terri’s condition? Some are born this way and others become this way due to illness or accident. I’ve nursed plenty of them. However, I’m not sure if death by dehydration is the best way to go—takes too long and is rather painful. Gas or injection is far less painful and much quicker. Or perhaps a quick jab of some scissors into the base of their skulls and the subsequent suctioning out of brain matter–hey just like a partial birth abortion baby! Or perhaps limb dismemberment and decapitation just like in a 2nd trimester D & E abortion! OH–the possibilities are endless!!

    Terri Schiavo did not drool which means she swallowed about 2 liters of saliva a day. Most feeding tubes are put in for convenience i.e.the patient is a very slow eater or aspirates easily. Such was the case with Ms. Schiavo. So yes she could have been given a little fluid–the armed guard was there to make sure no nursing staff did this.

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